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#912285 - 01/05/10 09:35 AM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: squid]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Registered: 02/06/06
Loc: West Auck, NZ
No I don't think it will prevent that.

I'll try make a full fan like that on Sunday, need to source new bolts though as it adds around 2mm of thickness to the assembly.
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#912441 - 03/05/10 07:22 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Sneak Peek Photos, Video to follow.

These are some side by side comparisons for a single and a double spring design.







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#912453 - 03/05/10 10:00 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Registered: 02/06/06
Loc: West Auck, NZ
and a video; Shazam!

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#912485 - 04/05/10 06:44 AM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
Grottbags Offline
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Registered: 14/04/10
Loc: Pie Town
Looking good mate, as with all things simplicity is the key, and I am suprised that no one had thought of this design for a folding fire fan with spinning loop before!

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#912490 - 04/05/10 07:26 AM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Grottbags]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Heh, whilst the design looks simple, there is a little bit of technology that goes in to making everything work as it works, as i've said before, this design is perhaps just the next step in the evolution of the fire fan, in time, other prop designers may follow suit, as there are around 3 or 4 design using leather tethers and 2 or 3 designs using chain tethers, but only one (commercially available) design like this.
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#912516 - 04/05/10 01:12 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
squid Offline
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Registered: 15/04/07
Loc: sur
Yep, Im convinced. Imma definitely buy this set when released. I also have to say that this is technologically the most exciting toy to come out since Dai's Buugeng.
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#912518 - 04/05/10 02:03 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: squid]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Thats a big call there Squid, your support means a lot, hundreds of $$ and hours have been thrown into this new design (without going into how much went in to the original design *shudders*), so i'm very happy with it, and eager to see it take off globally.
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#912865 - 08/05/10 01:03 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Another update guys;

After some number crunching and soul searching i've decided a single spring is the way forward.

All that is left is to possibly adjust the span size as Chris quite rightly pointed out that the 80cm span may be too long for some people to spin.

Perhaps a S & M size are in order...
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#912890 - 09/05/10 01:36 AM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
culp5945 Offline
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Registered: 15/09/09
Loc: Nanjing, China
Ohh I am so excited. That video clenched it for me. Especially the drop test :P:P

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#912984 - 10/05/10 11:01 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: culp5945]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Loc: West Auck, NZ
Have slapped a tentative release date of the first week of July for these.

Still a few fine details to straighten out including a last minute revision of the spring setup.
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#913007 - 11/05/10 09:31 AM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
Charlie Fox Offline
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I just did some research into Anodizing these black, would add around NZ$40/set... Really too pricey says me...
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#913203 - 13/05/10 02:20 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
hexacoto Offline
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Registered: 17/06/09
So if it's single-spring, would it have the problem of closing when you spin it, as you highlighted earlier in creating the fan? Also, how much cheaper would single-springs be?

Still excited for this!

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#913223 - 13/05/10 11:26 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: hexacoto]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Registered: 02/06/06
Loc: West Auck, NZ
The spin single spring is a stronger spring that the non-spring fan, so no, closing is not an issue.

As for price, it's looking like it will be very similar in cost to the non-spin fan,
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#913268 - 14/05/10 11:44 AM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
Ascilith Offline
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Beautiful. I have a friend that would be interested in these.
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#915703 - 13/06/10 05:48 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Ascilith]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Registered: 02/06/06
Loc: West Auck, NZ
Hello Faithful Listeners, er, i mean, Watchers, well readers...

Anywho.

To cut a long story short the release has been held up as i've been sent away for a month on course for my day job, fun fun... kinda.

The upside of the trip is i've had a lot of time to think over the design and have a number of additional improvements in mind for their eventual release, of which i'm not going to name a date this time as the last 3 times i've given dates it hasn't happened, so the next time i discuss their release, it will have happened ;o)

The priority for improvement on this design is to find a cheaper way to attach the wick, as currently, that's a very large cost due to the labor involved in stitching them on, but i am against wiring or bolting, or anything else that leaves a lot of metal exposed, but i have some other ideas which will be tested out when iget back in the workshop on the 5th of July.

Though other non priorities have been addressed like making them a little slimmer in the hand holding area, and possible pimping my workshop with a stamping/cutting tool to make the blades quicker, cleaner, and more accurate to produce, and therfore drop the price even further, though this is a US$1000 investment so will probably happen after i get a chance to assess how popular they are likely to become.
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#915704 - 13/06/10 06:14 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
hexacoto Offline
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Registered: 17/06/09
Ooh now that you're going back to the drawing board, I've got a question to ask: Is the fan going to be flat-ish at the base or will it be more like a 'V'? Cos flat-base fans are just a little weird to handle and spin (though it's probably an issue of getting used to) and fans that are flat at the bottom, in my opinion, doesn't looks as good when splayed out.

i.e (ASCII art attack!)

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#915705 - 13/06/10 06:18 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: hexacoto]
hexacoto Offline
stranger

Registered: 17/06/09
Also, in reply to the news of the delay of the fans:

=(

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#915706 - 13/06/10 06:22 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: hexacoto]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Registered: 02/06/06
Loc: West Auck, NZ
you know its funny you should ask that...

The team at HoP were quite interested in seeing the span drop from 180deg, or flat as you say, to 160 or 140 deg, I considered this also, but all of the NZ based owners of the original fire stuff fans were very much against that, which kind of swayed me to leave it as status quo... I am aware that every other fan, folding or not, is generally at 160 or 140, but it just seems that 180deg opens up some extra trick possibilities, though I wonder now if possibly offering buyers an option may be the way forward...
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#917123 - 02/07/10 04:56 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: Charlie Fox]
hexacoto Offline
stranger

Registered: 17/06/09
Just to let you know, Charlie, I fervently (as I do believe others too) check back on this page just in hopes that there might be an update or so. Like this is one of those instances haha.

Keep up the good work!



(pleasepleasepleaselettherebesomenewssoon)

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#917538 - 08/07/10 10:38 PM Re: Folding Finger Spinning Fire Fans [Re: hexacoto]
Charlie Fox Offline
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Registered: 02/06/06
Loc: West Auck, NZ
Drum Roll Please?

Production on these fans starts Saturday the 10th of July smile

There is one last possible tweak i'm investigating with the wick attachment, details to follow.
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