SuperHappyFun Contact Staff Links

The SuperHappyFun Definitive Contact Thread

edit: finished for the night - after an epic battle involving UBB code and a toaster. if you have any other links ive missed let me know.

Ive basically listed here every single contact thread I could find on HoP, with a quick summary of what is in each one. Ive divided it up into 3 sections
1. Newbies
2. More Advanced Stuff
3. Combination Ideas

A couple of threads are listed in a few places because they discuss a range of moves.

Part 1 - For newbies:
The key difference in contact staff compared to conventional spinning is that you move your body around the staff as much as it moves around you.
*yoda voice* You must be at one with the staff

Its hard to explain, until you’ve seen some videos. For videos of individual movements:
- MCP's website has a range of videos with supporting explanations and tips.

For videos with nice smooth combinations:
- www.poiinthepark.net
- www.soton-firespinning.co.uk
- knox’s stuff, in particular the videos knox2 . Where im living no-one else has even started contact, so ive been on my own - Knox’s video has been the best resource ive ever found.
- this video http://www.londonjuggling.org/vids/DrewAndStaff.avi is also rather helpful.
- the spinach sessions Part 2 has some lovely contact and general shenanigans
- a whole bunch of other stuff by bluecat, glass, and others which im too tired to make the effort to find right now.

here's some descriptions of the fundamental moves. being HoP threads, the conversation meanders somewhat....
incidently, ado-p is writing up stuff as he learns contact moves so beginners may find that useful.

i think the basic contact movements are the:
-elbow-wrist-wrist-elbow
-shoulder-neck-shoulder
-halo roll [shoulder-backpivot-shoulder]
-the half steve [palmspin-arm-neck-arm-palmspin]
-fishtails [back of hand]

Elbow-wrist-wrist-elbow
- Robs Contact Thread gives a description
- im sure i remember another one somewhere...

Shoulder-neck-shoulder & halo rolls
- Mcp’s shoulder-neck-shoulder variants thread
- shoulder-neck-shoulder-halo moves
- a very old description of the halo roll
- many moves can be done on both the back and front of the neck

The half steve
This move is a fraction of ‘the steve’- named after steve from mushypea juggling who is one of the pioneers of contact staff.
- palm spin to neck wrap transfers thread give a range of tips
- backspin to quarter steve exits gives some info on a variation of the move

Fishtails
- fishtails thread
- another fishtails thread

Part 2: More advanced stuff

neck spin to head spin transfers

forehead spins & aspirin

contact catches

crude staffing

Inverted Fishtails

foot stuff
- the mullen
- the lynx
- Silly contact knee roll
- Contact stalls and foot juggles
- Contact Leg Throw

Part 3: Combinations & Random Ideas
heres some threads which may give you a few more ideas.

Robs Contact Thread is a rather large thread from a colourful feline. This has enough funky singles and doubles contact moves and ideas to keep you going for a while

nice contact combos thread

random ideas thread

more contact ideas

look mum! no hands! - another older thread

another older random ideas thread

one more....

Variations of neck-spins

the double steve [also described in robs contact thread]

a thread on doubles separations and combinations that uses some contact

a few mentions of doubles crosses and contact

an old post relating contact & baton twirling

contact staff vs baton twirlers...

stuff about contact grip contstruction

Contact staff size & construction

a philiosophical discussion about what is a contact combo

a random post on the origins of contact

fishy neckrolls & bitching about baton twirlers

An old thread with dead links...

Do we get to talk about Badgers in here too?



like in the Hyperloops and tangles thread?

certainly! kitten related crimes can also be discussed!

Hows this:

http://www.advocate611.com/hb11lng.htm

*shudder* legal stuff...

i never paid much attention to laws.

does anybody mind if i go a bit

and avoid any mention of kittens, and instead just give some

to Dentrassi for his most excellent work on his links:

Good work sir!

and good luck also for the substantial amounts of future editry you will have to endure as and when any new contact thread gets created.
bwa ha ha haaaaaaa...

Could I add on a helpful note that there's no mention of the Rubber Heart Duo's video which is an excellent vid for learning throws with doubles...

Congrats and thanks Dentrassi.

Have a kittern

psssttt durbs

its coz its a contact staff thread....

Dentrassi,

Nice work dude, very nice indeed.

Ahhhh - my bad

wow, there's suddenly a lot more thread links... Nice one Dentrassi...

I like that the past is all nicely laid out and organised. Now we can get on with making up the future...

:claphands:

i think u definately need to add
http://www.londonjuggling.org/vids/DrewAndStaff.avi
to the videos list.

the yahoo group got deleted by yahoo as nothing was posted there for ages.

Yes, definitely needs to be added. Was one of the first staff vids i saw and it helped me out a lot. Especially with new ideas and what you can really do with a staff. Plus all the other nifty stuff on it! Glass rocks! So do you Ben! Big hug to all my staff brethren and sistren!

Mayhem

well done Dentrassi!

Josh

ooo so much to read

Thanx for taking the time to do all this, nice and eezy to follow too!

thanx all! happy reading.

have slipped in the link to the glass vid.

right. im going out into to the late night rain to work out more silly doubles combos.

incidently, if anyone see's mech around - go up and hump his leg for me. i finally finished wicking the contact staff he made when he was staying here - and its an absolutely dream to play with [the staff, not mech ].

wicked thread dentrassi!

*bump*

nice on on the thread ed

i can just see you now sitting at your dads machine like the good old days in your shorts and huge socks, working the night away while i sleep like a log in the next room

this is a really col thread man

cheers

ps hows you and your lady?

Most useful, and we wouldn't want it to disappear.

*bump*

One of the mods should sticky this. Its far too useful to let fall into the mirky depths of the staff forum. God only knows what else is lurking down there.

How do we go about this, or will the mods just read this and think "yeah, great idea". Do we have to infor anyone?

I notified the mods (if thats the right thing to do) so hopefuly the thread will get stickied.

Thanks again to the mods

Well, it'll either get it stcikied, deleted or we'll all be told off for being naughty and stuff.

We live in hope for the first option.

Yay to the Mods.

Mucho thanks

Thank you to the mods and Dentrassi.

Thanx for Dividing all of that Info up!! That im sure was a great deal of Work!! Thank you! Now back to my reading!!

i just wish i had broadband so i can downloads them

lol

yay! i always had trouble searching for contact staff vids, i only ever found one thread with MPC on it, but this is ace

good work dentrassi.

Nice work Ed

Though now it looks like to have so much to work on...
its already taken 2 years to get 2 contact moves.

Though now I have a contact staff thats helping heaps.

see you about

check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JjDfB0sUn0

sume nise moves but i stall dont have broadband so it hard to see them lol owow

nice, well made movie. not much contact though.

Yo Shay

I'm having a bad day so I gotta ask.. again.. since this is the 3rd message I found from you promoting your vid in random threads.. why the hell do you spam in all these threads? Take your video to the videos section before I start giving you some unconstructive criticism..

he spammed all the threads in the space of like 10 minutes or something. And he's probably long gone by now. I put some unconstructive criticism on youtube for him...

And he even replyed your comment... ooh.. You should go to the jim.

Yeah meg, no point in going around commenting on people unless you got the muscle to back it up...

haven't you seen lab05.1? I'm sooo totally buff.

Whahah... My comment wasn't approved by Youtube..! ??? I posted the comment like 10 hours ago and it's still not there.. Maybe it was because I used the word 'CRAP' in it.

Its ok Antti ill help out instead, i mean the least we can do is spam him back!

Edit:
oo! i think hes blocked comments. I think you struck a nerve meg.... now go lift some weights!

No !!
don't spam him !! he's so great !! I love him !! he can actually spin with 2 staves IN THE SAME TIME !! and WITH FIRE ON IT !! that's amazing, this guy is a god.
he's my fafourite after Robert heart .

ok, let's focus on somting else, it's better for ealth and inspiratrion.
you guy know Dave from Colorado ? :

posted on tribe : "what your about to see is what happens when you take ambien (strong sleeping medication) during the day and try to spin in a very dizzy and confused state.... "

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5099591670743507141

so if i take sleeping medication will i suddenly be this good? someone pass me the ambien! and maybe some valium too!

Holy crap, thats awesome! Really good choice of music too, Devotchka rocks...

Hey guys here is a link to a nice contact video.

The move being demonstrated is the Prayer Matrix in 1200 frames per second! some really cool footage! Nicely demonstrates how much you actually need to bend your body.

Contact Staff - Prayer Matrix - Super Slow Motion Video

Love, Light & Poi
Bruno