You can go to the ball.....

that's it.. I'm finishing grad shcool.. getting my phd.. and moving to the uk... I'm sick of being out the friggin loop.. the thought of how much I could actually learn from someone or eve njust having people to spin with on a regular basis just blows my mind..

wicked

*waits patiently for rev to finish school*

(UK) = (UK) + 1
(US) = (US) - 1

Damn.

Actually, London and Louisiana are about the same distance financially anyway... so it's a wash to me. And if EVERYONE moves to London, that makes my vacation plans much easier.

Glad that was useful simian; and nx? it's certainly is confusing. Perhaps a point worth making is that for much of this learning stuff you need a system, and even if the system is obscure, as long as you can see a progression from basic (building block moves) to the more complex, then it makes sense, ummm.

Rev, to paraphrase Glass "use badly described poi words as inspiration, its far more rewarding to explore the territory for yourself, and to define perfection in poi for yourself, and to always aim and strive for that point".

I don't want to hijack Glass's thread with a discussion on transitions, but transitions are the passage from one form, state, style, or place to another (dictionary dot com) found in the sub-section ticks, under sleight of hand, next to it's all done with mirrors

the v stuff kinda makes sense.. I mean I follow the idea of the helix.. and all so I grasp the / and \.. I'm going to read over it again in a few days, I want to wait until I get done playing with some things before I start another theorizing tangent..that's the part of poi I love best.. aside from doing it and all..

as far as perfection in poi. yeah.. I know what it is.. its something I haven't achieved.. that's why I keep spinning.. otherwise I would be a quitter.. and rehab is for quitters.. Betty Ford clinic for poi... lol..

Arrr, simian, I'm inclined to agree with your statement: "Godammit, follow and parallel are rubbish terms. What are terms for those timings irrespective of same\opposite direction"

I don't know the answer, except to say that with parallel moves, for example parallel circles to the right, your right hand is doing an outward circle and your left hand is doing an inward circle.

The term parallel is used when the movement is parallel from start to finish. Apparently, you don't use the term parallel, if you are doing a shoulder movement with one hand and hip movement with the other

au contraire...

I use the term paralel to refer to just that very thing, as long as the poi are pointed in the same direction at teh same time, i call it paralell. for egsample paralell extensions, wher one stays at the hip and the other does a shoulder circle and the poi make one line going round, cos they are in paralell time. *shrug*

T

I'd have to agree that's a good working definition of parallel Nix?, and the one I was using until I looked it up and confused myself

I call then parallel when they aren't parallel

sorry I'm not helping am I

*shrug* walks off to find some brekkie.

*thinks*
Hmmm. What this needs is some fancy computer graphics, and a scientific way of explaining moves to explain things clearly.
*/thinks*

Does anyone know how to put together computer models of this kind of thing?

You need poibot. Is she still alive?

Ok, so my question was kind of leading. I just wanted to know if anyone else might do this first.

I've got a load of programming experience, just not in the right kind of languages for this (Povray makes nice 3d pictures from script, but it isn't for interactive stuff, just animation. JavaScript and Python I can do pretty well, but aren't really suited to online graphics). Also I know all the maths from A-Level for the inertia, momentum, acceleration and gravity calculations, along with the proper mathematical models of 3d space.

I think I could put together some interactive models, but I've got to learn to program the ActionScript language used for Macromedia Flash first. I need to do this for a load of projects, but this one starts off simple enough to get me into it, and in a field I'm familiar with.

There's no way I'd be able to add an acurately modelled person into the middle of it all, I'm going to be starting with real basic stuff like gravity (make an object in the movie accelerate downwards), circular motion caused by connecting the object to a revolving point/finger (apply momentum in the direction of pull), then move from a 2d system to 3d.

Failing that I could always see if I can find some freeware motion capture software, and a bunch of poiers who don't mind being filmed whilst covered in white spots! Putting M.C. info into a database hooked up to Flash might be easier on peoples computers than doing 3D calculations in Flash.

I'll see how it goes as I'm working on LED poi too at the moment.

Have you seen poibot on Sphericulism?

Somebody post a link.. I'm out the door.

http://www.spherculism.com/help/poibot_009.html

I wish I understood even a fraction of the original post

it groups of moves innit.

but seeing you can do a whole load of moves in every family listed, i guess it doesn't matter that you don't get it fairy.

its only really useful to remind yourself that just when you think its all done, there's a whole load more to learn





cole. x

Cehck the Poi bot again from the front he is cheeting with hands hahahahh

k. I'll stop panicking now then

that's because the physics engine isnt in it yet... there's a ntoher cool video floating around showing waht the next poi bot will look like.. only the vid has kung-fu bot instead of poibot.. lol.. I'll see what I can do about getting a link up later today