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#308705 - 11/03/04 01:25 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: tiamat_22580]
[Nx?] Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 05/11/01 Loc: Europe,Scotland,Both	_________________________ This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate -><- Kallisti
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#308706 - 11/03/04 10:28 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: [Nx?]]
Pyrolific Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium Registered: 10/01/01 Loc: Adelaide, South Australia	Thats very nice dude now can we have a version of twirling site swap? Josh _________________________ -- Help! My personality got stuck in this signature machine and I cant get it out!
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#308707 - 11/03/04 10:58 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: [Nx?]]
mech Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 09/06/03 Loc: "In your ear"	right, a lil confused, but i think i get it, wow an early morning and im understanding stuff, i may even do some work soon! as for jedi moves, can i just do my "jaba the hut" move, and be fat, lazy and not do much? Works better for me, and ill teach anyone who cares. Surly thought any move is jedi dependent on skill level, this is the part i am stuck on who decides they are jedi (this is not meant as an attack on anyone) is it like a group cencous? because to do the 5btw is still jedi to me, esp when done in combos, and breaking palnes smothly, ie going into buzzsaw from any move well, is jedi... this is just me now, but as the topic has been raised, im voicing my question. But yeah, thats how i always imagined moves to be grouped, and i am tryinging to work my way up, but more worring about getting smoothness that tech down at the mo, cos im lazy, and dont like change shakes hand at change laterdays guys _________________________ Step (el-nombrie)
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#308708 - 11/03/04 11:03 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: mech]
simian 110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY Registered: 11/10/02 Loc: London	Quote: who decides they are jedi? You have to send a self addressed envelope and a �5 postal order to: Yoda, Yoda's Shack, The Swamp, Dagobah, A Galaxy Far Far Away and he sends you back your jedi certificate. _________________________ "Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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#308709 - 11/03/04 11:06 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: simian]
mech Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 09/06/03 Loc: "In your ear"	Quote: Quote: who decides they are jedi? You have to send an self addressed envelope and a �5 postal order to: Yoda, Yoda's Shack, The Swamp, Dagobah, A Galaxy Far Far Away and he sends you back your jedi certificate. i did this but it came back from a guy called luke, saying "sorry for some bizzar reason hes vanished, i tyhink i used to much daz on his robe, and he was washed away!" _________________________ Step (el-nombrie)
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#308710 - 12/03/04 05:52 AM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: Gl�ss]
NYC NYC Registered: 26/08/01 Loc: NYC, NY, USA	I forgot to say ... THANKS GLASS! Excellent post my buddy. I've already printed it out for reread if I'm stuck on a subway... er I mean ... underground. _________________________ Well, shall we go? Yes, let's go. [They do not move.]
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#308711 - 12/03/04 12:31 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: Gl�ss]
Stone Stream Entrant Registered: 13/06/01 Loc: Melbourne	Great stuff Glass, thanks for sharing. Have a ball I think the list is a great for discussion, but I kinda have a different system; I expect we all do (have different systems that is). I only have two families: same direction and opposite direction. I try and differentiate my timing (ie. split/follow/same) from my moves (ie. butterfly/weave/waist wraps etc.). I wouldn�t include butterflies in Ways of Spinning for example, because u can have same-time or split time b/f. Do u use split-shifts and follow-shifts?? Cheers and tight planes _________________________ If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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#308712 - 12/03/04 01:44 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: Stone]
Gl�ss The Ministry of Manipulation Registered: 08/11/01 Loc: Bristol	umm i edited for ya stone, in ways of spinning butterfly is short for butterfly time, so the first 4 now look like the same basic 2 times split or parrallel and 2 directions same or opposite. so you can take any move and try it in any "way of spinning", or take any more and see what happens if you try to marry it into another family, etc etc "split-shifts and follow-shifts?? " I dont know, define please.
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#308713 - 12/03/04 03:09 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: Gl�ss]
MillenniuM Hyperloops suck Registered: 10/07/03	What's the difference between split time and follow time? Can you give a clear definition of each? (You being anyone that knolws )
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#308714 - 12/03/04 11:09 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: MillenniuM]
simian 110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY Registered: 11/10/02 Loc: London	Millenium: follow timed backward circles split timed backward circles Split-shift and folow-shift being when you switch timing from one to the other, perhaps? but then which is which??? _________________________ "Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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#308715 - 13/03/04 02:03 AM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: simian]
oli not with cactus Registered: 24/07/03 Loc: bristol/ southern eastern devo...	follow time is what i thought parallel time was if thats follow time up there. whats parallel time? _________________________ Me train running low on soul coal They push+pull tactics are driving me loco They shouldn't do that no no no
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#308716 - 14/03/04 06:46 AM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: oli]
bluecat geek, level 1 Registered: 15/12/02 Loc: everywhere	incidentally: Quote: quarter time (ugh) is nice in cross isolations. not yet found a (beautiful) use for it other than that...... _________________________ Holistic Spinner (I hope)
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#308717 - 14/03/04 09:32 AM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: bluecat]
PK_ Lambretta Fanatic Registered: 20/12/01	<< you need one of those drew. _________________________ PK. "To be an angel, one need not have wings. In giving love there is an equal grace. Nor need one seek the aura in the face, As love unveils the beauty of all things." *Francois Couperin.
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#308718 - 14/03/04 11:57 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: simian]
Gl�ss The Ministry of Manipulation Registered: 08/11/01 Loc: Bristol	"time" is shorthand for "time and direction": FOLLOW TIME: same direction 180� apart. like you do in cross follow or 3 bt weave.po point in opposite directions PARALLEL TIME: same direction and parallel, , its the simplest time to understand BUTTERFLY TIME: opposite direction crossing at top and bottom SPLIT TIME: opposite direction crossing at sides. same rhythm as follow time but po travelling on opposite direction so they cross at 3 oclock and 9 oclock Monkey, you can only miss a target by 180 degrees but its cool that your trying to help thanks CRITICAL MOMENTUM: when near the top of the revolution, the speed of the po at the top of the arc falls below a certain speed (aside: it think its about 2m/s or 6 ft/sec for the old timers and yanks if your hand is stationary but i wouldn't trust the math i do late at night and your hand isn't stationary )... where was I, ok, below a certain speed at the top the tension falls to zero. and the po falls off the circle for about a quarter to a third of a circle, but still completes the loop around the hand. Ideal for drunken master style very difficult to have any plane control or timing, but that�s just more drunk, very nice feeling at the po fall over your hands plop plop plop much easier if you don't try mostly poi ntless not possible with clubs
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#308719 - 15/03/04 09:30 AM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: Gl�ss]
Richee HOP librarian Registered: 15/01/02 Loc: Prague	Its funny how technical base of Poi can be summarize in such "less words", nice one (I have some too:) _________________________ POI THEO(R)IST
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#308720 - 15/03/04 01:45 PM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: Gl�ss]
Stone Stream Entrant Registered: 13/06/01 Loc: Melbourne	Interesting stuff Glass, and just a few quick comments as I need to study this stuff for a few days. I also hope to have a permanent connection soon. Split-shift, I�ll look it up as I always get confused with this same-time/alternating time stuff. But, I think it�s just a term for the shift when you go from a parallel to alternating time; ditto follow-time. As a general comment, I don�t think it is a good idea to use alternating time and parallel time as synonyms for split and same time. A favourite move is the alternating, split-time butterfly. It�s probably a mistake, but I read somewhere that follow-time is 90 degrees apart. I often wonder how many poiers spin exactly 180 degrees apart, especially when they are spinning really, really, fast. I had never heard of butterfly-time, but it makes sense; I just call it a �bound�. What about double time? Simian, that backwards swing is in same-time _________________________ If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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#308721 - 16/03/04 12:11 AM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: Stone]
Frodo old hand Registered: 30/06/03 Loc: In a van	Im so confused!! i cant get any of it!! i guess thats down to the fact that im a student! does someone wanna come and live with me for a month and explain it all... infact if i print off the list, and come to london is there anyone willing to go through it!? _________________________ passing through, this world still lives.
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#308722 - 16/03/04 03:55 AM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: Gl�ss]
NYC NYC Registered: 26/08/01 Loc: NYC, NY, USA	Quote: "time" is shorthand for "time and direction": FOLLOW TIME: same direction 180� apart. like you do in cross follow or 3 bt weave.po point in opposite directions PARALLEL TIME: same direction and parallel, , its the simplest time to understand BUTTERFLY TIME: opposite direction crossing at top and bottom SPLIT TIME: opposite direction crossing at sides. same rhythm as follow time but po travelling on opposite direction so they cross at 3 oclock and 9 oclock I'd always just used "in time" (for both paralel and butterfly time) and "split time" (for both split-time and follow time)...which I think I got from the basic HoP lessons... so thanks for explaining your definitions Mr. Glassy. They're certainly useful once you get into more complex moves. Though I do think it's wierd if you simply spin both poi forward in what HoP and I would call 'split time' and you would call 'follow time'... because if you're just spinning them forward, they're not following anything. But it makes sense in the context of moves. _________________________ Well, shall we go? Yes, let's go. [They do not move.]
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#308723 - 16/03/04 03:57 AM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: NYC]
oli not with cactus Registered: 24/07/03 Loc: bristol/ southern eastern devo...	Quote: Quote: "time" is shorthand for "time and direction": FOLLOW TIME: same direction 180� apart. like you do in cross follow or 3 bt weave.po point in opposite directions PARALLEL TIME: same direction and parallel, , its the simplest time to understand BUTTERFLY TIME: opposite direction crossing at top and bottom SPLIT TIME: opposite direction crossing at sides. same rhythm as follow time but po travelling on opposite direction so they cross at 3 oclock and 9 oclock I'd always just used "in time" (for both paralel and butterfly time) and "split time" (for both split-time and follow time)...which I think I got from the basic HoP lessons... so thanks for explaining your definitions Mr. Glassy. They're certainly useful once you get into more complex moves. Though I do think it's wierd if you simply spin both poi forward in what HoP and I would call 'split time' and you would call 'follow time'... because if you're just spinning them forward, they're not following anything. But it makes sense in the context of moves. i second that _________________________ Me train running low on soul coal They push+pull tactics are driving me loco They shouldn't do that no no no
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#308724 - 16/03/04 04:05 AM Re: You can go to the ball..... [Re: oli]
ugoAgogo member Registered: 05/04/03 Loc: Brighton / Canterbury	TEChnical POI~IOP zzzppp baa rrrriipppp zzzz wzzxchsdjksdjk mal#func~tion is"o2l"�ation re&*ver)serd pop ting _________________________ ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. . . . . . . . . . . . . ZAP
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