The Official HOP "I just learned a new move" thread

I am proud to have gotten the reverse 5 beat weave, which has evaded me for the longest time. I can do a btb weave, but I always forget to practice, so have never gotten even remotely good at it.

good job everybody, cept for the hooligans chattin away j/k

hee hee! I got that today too! It rules! I can do 5 beat weave turns and 5 beat fountains! god they feel good. The most helpful thing was doing the forward 5 beat and watching your hands, because there are little flicks you do subconsciously with your fingers to get the poi in the right place...

now all I need is the rvs ttn, then i can start doing the split time ttn and stuff too.

heeh, im running out of moves to learn! jk, i have all the 5bt btb stuff to get done now...

I learned this new move the other night from a friend I haven't seen since highschool. It's easier to do with shorter strings. You start out by swinging the poi in front of you kinda like a butterfly but with your hands apart from each other. What you do is stick your left arm foreward some so your right poi wraps around it and starts swinging the opposite direction, then you pull your left arm back in and stick your right arm out some and do the wrap with your left poi. you keep switching hands and wraping and the poi keep alternating foreward to reverse to foreward with little spirals inbetween from the wraps, it looks crazy. now i just gotta figure out how to transfer into this move smooth.

My roomate calls this move the Rolley Tango cause he says it looks like two rolley polley bugs dancing.

Sundevilx1@aol.com

Damn you,, i've been doing that move for ages now , and you beat me to putting it up here. Ahh Knagi can back me up on knowing it.
The 5 beats are still kicking my ass, as i can't do them. But i'm getting good at arm- legwraps , and dancing around more.

just learned the BTB weave and I'm still practicing, it comes so-so, but i have to put my left foot forward so it doesn't get it, also I can do the BTB weave-->weave
but I can't do weave to BTB weave, both poi hits my knees, any good suggestions?

get your knees out of the way

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Just learned the Lower fountain.... =)
man... now i sure have bunch of tricks to play & rotate... but i'll like to master my transitions from weave to btb weave, i can do it doing a 5 beat weave to btb weave...

but, it is posible a 5 beat lower fountain?
5 beat and the reverse weave in the center is just 3?

keep spinning guys... don't stay forever with a trick once you learn it... combo it, specially having fun with the weave & turn

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just started the reverse BTB weave today, did like 1 of each side but everytime i go to my right it hits me

I think that I got the rev btb weave because of the fwd btb training i did? I dunno, but I feel that my arms travels more freely, maybe because the arms that makes the transfer to the other sides goes Over the arm and allows to spin more freely;not like the fwd btb weave that goes under, I dunno, I hope to get it pretty soon and then began with the troublesomes turns & wraps btb, dunno, just writing it down to express my learning process and how it feels before it comes naturally and forget how to explain it, Peace out

Hey im actually looking for some help
Im trying to crack my five beat weave but im struggling on my left hand side

are there any tricks or am i just uncoordinated

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Its a simple move, but i was excited to learn something new and looks cool! Cant wait to do it on fire.

Its just swinging the poi on the same side of the body once and then changing over to the other side (i did say it was easy) but it crosses your hands and the circles look really effective, gonna try and experiment with circle size and transitioning now!

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Already mastered reverse BTB weaves(mostly), and transitioning from front to behind the back for reverse weaves. I can pull of a forward BTB weave about 80% of the time. Pulled off (finally) a turning BTB weave from reverse BTB to forward BTB tonight. Only did it once though. :P

I dunno if this has a name, but try doing a weave to one side(like a fountain), then in teh middle, rather than doing a windmill, just do the front part of the windmill(without going over your head) but do teh hand movements of a quad windmill, and go immediately to a weave on the right side. Keep both weaves, and the extra beats in the middle all at the same height. The effect is, it looks like the circles, "roll" from one side of your body to the other. :P

CRD

I just noticed something... I can do the rvs 5 beat weave... but not the bloody rvs butterfly.

I thought i could but its nowhere near as smooth and relaxed as my fwd butterfly... and im scared of hitting myself in the head! Does anyone else see the vague irony in this...

wow..couldn't believe it. I was just on break at work, and I decided to try a reverse ttn and succeeded, very smoothly too! So I guess I can add that to my repitoire.

CRD

CrazyRaverDude-good idea, about going from fwd to rev back to frd then back to rev on either side. i have been doing that move for about 3 months now, and it looks sick, and its really easy to do. i dont know what it would be called though, i kinda thought about a 7 beat weave, but that wouldnt work because weaves have to be mostly in front of you. one has to turn alot while doing this one, but im glad someone could explain it better than me, i tried posting the move, but did a shitty job explaining. Just wanted everyone to know, that I FINALLY got the btb weave last night after weeks of trying!!! it was a good day; any advice on turning with the btb weave, i always hit myself on my opposite leg. thanks everyone!!!!!
happy twirling, Eman

does anyone have any advice on the btb butterfly, i can get it but not all the time, is there a definite place where your arms should stay to make it easier????
thanks,
Eman

Greetings everyone.....

A little something that I have achieved a few weeks ago that you might want to try...
thread the needle but instead of only one rotation before changing to the next one Wrap you arm that is moving forward around the other then push forward quickly to do a DOUBLE ROTATION!!

Yeap DOUBLE THREAD THE NEEDLE....
Couldnt believe it when I first saw it....

Happy Twirling
Deviant

Deviant,
I'll have to try that one tonight...sounds phat :P

Eman,
As for BTB turning weaves, I would say that first you should get down completely pat both forward and reverse weaves. I find it easier to start from a reverse weave, right when the first poi is about to switch sides, turn your body the opposite direction. I would say turn farther than you think you need to, to help from hitting your opposite leg. (also helps to contort your body sometimes when first learning moves..hehe)

As for BTB butterfly, I find the reverse BTB btfly easier to do. It took me awhile to get the hang of it, I had the same problem it sounds like you have. The easiest way I learned it was to stagger the butterfly(split time), and go into it behind your back. Once you have split time down pat(with your wrists next to each other behind your back), then work on moving close to same-time.

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[PLUR]
-=Crazy Raver Dude=-

Now that I've learned the reverse TTN, I have now learned the 3 point TTN! :P Sweet.

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[PLUR]
-=Crazy Raver Dude=-

As abig step towards btb weave, I learned to btb figure 8. Not for very long, but it was sustained, though it needs work.
My calves hurt!

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I finally figured out what i've been doing wrong on the stupid butterfly... sad huh? heheheh... actually don't know what made me change my hands from ryt being bottom front to top back but i can do it now.

And I think I got the 5 beat weave last night too. While doing the weave instead of following my right hand down onto my left side i bring it over and make do a beat with each, then as they start to wrap around each other(my arms) another beat a piece and then this time around i do a slight wrap on (can't remember which arm) and bring it across.. hmm maybe its a 6bt.. *shrug* anyways i was happy.

got a lot of kewl combos last nyt too... chains are so much easier to learn stuph with, now i gotta find out if i can do it with gsticks.

(what lead to this was i got my poi from Malcolm and the weight is so much better than glowsticks)

-happy wulff